The GOP is to Conservatives what the Soviets were to the Allies

| January 19 2014
David Leeper

republicanmoderatesmoreelectableHere’s a pivotal question for Conservatives: How should we regard all the Big-Government “moderate” Republican candidates who will be running for (re)election in 2014 and 2016?

Many of us are understandably fed up with the GOP — all the more so after Speaker John Boehner infamously laid claim to the “conservative” label for himself and trashed as having “lost all credibility” brave Conservatives like Ted Cruz. Why? Because they chose to fight rather than capitulate to Big Government Democrats and the Democrat-servile Big Media.

And many of us are still bitter over the GOP’s treatment of Conservative candidates in past primaries and elections. It now appears that millions of us chose to sit out 2012 to send a message to the GOP. Indeed, a “principled non-vote” may have seemed a safe way to send that message, since pundits like Dick Morris were bombastically predicting a GOP “blowout” victory in 2012.

Oops. Lesson learned.

That must not happen again in 2014 and 2016.  All Conservatives must vote, and we have to vote for the Republican even when the candidate is not to our liking. 

jfk-conservative-jacketI was once a Democrat, and I’m old enough to remember when the Democrat party had a small but solid wing of politicians who believed in fiscal and personal responsibility, limited government, free enterprise, a strong defense, and the US Constitution that they swore to uphold.

No longer.

Democrats in that Conservative tradition, like John Kennedy, Zell Miller, Scoop Jackson, and Joe Lieberman are long gone. Instead, the Democrat party is now super-saturated with Big Government, statist, lifetime-legislative-class elites like Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid, and Nancy Pelosi who have sold our children and grandchildren into debt bondage while pretending to be the party that “cares.” Phooey.

Sadly, there are plenty of old bulls in the GOP who are little better. They put on a show of conservatism, mouthing conservative themes when running for re-election and occasionally from the House and Senate floor. They then capitulate to their “old friends across the aisle” in the name of “compromise” and “pragmatism”, thereby winning favorable write-ups in the New York Times. For decades, they too have piled up the debt that will crush our country. It happened on their watch, and there’s no escaping that truth or their responsibility for it.

So …

How do Conservatives handle the painful “cognitive dissonance” of voting for re-election of a Big-Government Republican? Hold our noses with one hand and mark the ballot with the other? That’s one way, but instead, I take some comfort in thinking of it this way:

Nov28LN-blog480The GOP is to Conservatives what the Soviets were to the Allies in World War II.

For now at least, we need each other, and we have a common enemy. When it seems too difficult to campaign and vote for a Big Government Republican, remember what what Winston Churchill famously said about Joseph Stalin:  (roughly) If he were to oppose Adolph Hitler, I would make favorable references to the devil!

Once the modern, statist, Democrat party is pushed back into the minority, we can carry on the battle with Big Government Republicans for the soul of the GOP within the party.  It may be a long cold war with the Washington GOP “establishment”, but we’ve already made great progress in the states and among We the People, and the old guard of the GOP will ultimately give way to a new generation of principled conservative politicians.

In the meantime, when you hear of “RINOs” in the context of the GOP’s next slate of candidates, think “Soviets” and remember Ronald Reagan’s long-term plan for dealing with them: “We win. They lose.”

44 comments
PatShaler
PatShaler

Absolutely not!  That is the way the left is painting us to try to neutralize us - and, since they control the majority of the media, it has worked.  The fighting amongst ourselves only helps the left with their message.  We have political activists on the left and on the right - to win elections we need to be attractive to a majority of the middle - the voters who are not political junkies or activists.  Right now they dislike all of us - they are in line with us politically - the government is too big and intrusive, now we have to  show them we are likable, cooperative, and worth their time and vote.

PatShaler
PatShaler

rofomoreno - that quote you cited was the choice that I believe the Independents/middle America/under informed, non political junkies, have.  I want to open our arms and welcome and encourage all who are not hard left/socialists/obamaites to vote Republican as the only path to stopping this madness. 


I would like the GOP to simplify their platform and message - if you want to stop Obama and Pelosi, repeal and replace Obamacaid and start the Keystone Pipeline, vote GOP.  A GOP win moves the political fulcrum to the right - THEN we can start promoting candidates that are more in line with our individual philosophies.  This is not the time to conduct an internecine battle - that only helps the far left.


When the Dems turned Colorado Blue they did it by leaving their individual agendas at the door and united to vote in any D as better than any R - we need to do the same, now.

PatShaler
PatShaler

Ron - your suggestion of 'one girder at a time' is the only way - look at all the seats the GOP has lost b/c 'the purists' controlled the outcome of the Primary.  We need to join hands.with anyone who is not a convicted leftist - not just GOP or TP or Conservative - but, not a blind Obama follower - big net.

PatShaler
PatShaler

That was the best time to start - the next best time is today.....

PatShaler
PatShaler

I do not understand?  could you send me a direct e-mail - patriots@teapartyscottsdale.com  Thanks, Pat

PatShaler
PatShaler

I wrote something this weekend - how do I send it to you?

PatShaler
PatShaler

Thanks - let me give it some thought and let my meds kick in.....

PatShaler
PatShaler

Thanks.  I will down load your booklet - In the meantime, please let me know if you publish a "reader's digest' version.  Let's encourage our more conservative members to reach out and make friends with the moderates - lets be the first to extend the hand of friendship and collegiality.  We should stop using 'rinos' and 'mccainites' as pejoratives.  I believe you are correct about the ultimate outcome for the GOP.  However, in order to make that happen we need to change our image with the general public.

PatShaler
PatShaler

O.k. Group - 1.  What can we do to convince the "Establishment" GOP to play nice with us and work together to win? 

2.  What can we do to reach out to the less political, middle America, middle of the road, to show them we all agree (one idea TPS has is we are going to actively look for Community Service Projects to put our efforts into - Jan was packages from home for our Troops, we are exploring Adopt a Hwy to get our name on a sign (and it would be kind of fun and rewarding)

We have to do something other than gripe to each other and spat with the mainstream GOP - from each one of the P.O.V.'s the other group looks like 'rinos'.....Ideas, anyone?

PatShaler
PatShaler

"Vote for the most Conservative Candidate who can win"  Wm Buckley  That has got to be our mantra for 2014.  We did not push it hard enough in 2012 and we, the Country, lost - big time.

PatShaler
PatShaler

Tea Party Scottsdale is going to start Waking the Sleeping Giant for our Book Club.  This is a handbook on how to advance our agenda against the onslaught of the left.  Go here to see a further description of the book.  http://www.teapartyscottsdale.com/book

Also, the book Blueprint; How the Left turned Colorado Blue is excellent.  The key is that the Democrats left their personal agendas at the door and worked together to vote in any D as better than any R - we can take a page from that idea.

PatShaler
PatShaler

Well said, ggoosse,  What more can we do to bring the far right purists and the 'independents', low information voters, into the fold?  We need to form a simple, straightforward message and keep repeating it.  Also, we need to stop letting the left throw us onto the defensive with their absurd allegations.

Let's focus on no longer letting the left define the argument.

ggoosse
ggoosse

Certainly Romney lost due to non-voting people.  For him it was a double whammy.  Many conservatives saw him as big government and thus did not vote.  Many others who were Conservative Christians didn't like the fact that he was Mormon and refused to vote for him.  I am a Conservative Christian, but I weighed the two and found that it was far easier to vote for a Mormon than a Muslim.  We have had many presidents over the years who were probably closet atheists or agnostics, and thus having a Mormon for president didn't really bother me.  After all, Jimmy Carter was considered a Conservative Christian when he was elected and he was one of the worst presidents ever!

So many of my friends and relatives simply stayed home from the polls in order to honor their principles and we ended up with the disastrous president we have now as a result.  Was Romney my first choice?  Of course not!  But he would have been light years better than what we have now!

dleeper47
dleeper47 moderator

On a conservative Facebook group page, one of the comments attached to this article was as follows:

From "Cheryl": Absolutely NOT. I will NOT vote for anyone who voted for cloture, passing Obamacare or the new spending bill.

My response was: Cheryl: As the British would say, you get "full marks" for standing on principle. Good for you on that score.


However:


In the battle against the neo-Marxists in Washington, we could have used your vote. We'll try as hard as we can to get good conservative candidates, but evidently, where we get a RINO on the ticket, you'll unilaterally disarm and stay home. That's sad.


I wonder if there are some Cheryls on the other side -- folks who say that if their candidate isn't a true Marxist/Leninist, they'll just stay home(?). I hope so. That would cancel the damage from your non-vote. But I doubt there are many like that on the Left.


Anyway, bask in your principled glory, and we'll do the best we can without you.

PatShaler
PatShaler

WOW!  Absolutely lays out what the game plan should be for all GOP's, Tea Party and Conservatives - everyone who is not a committed far left socialist.

sspdavidmiller
sspdavidmiller

Very good analogy to a quote by Churchill and to a WWII alliance. Your theory and suggestions are worthy, however Big Gov GOPs consider the Democratic party to be the enemy in the same way two warlords consider each other to be the enemy; it is all about the spoils of elected office. Conservatives however are driven by principle as most of us know. But whereas Conservatives and the Big Gov GOP might/maybe have a common enemy the Big Gov GOP demonstrably considers Conservatives to be the enemy; Big Gov GOPs might actually consider Dems to be less an enemy than Conservatives! 

I pray that a Big Gov GOP candidate does not appear on the 2016 ballot, because I will not vote for anyone in that case.

WesternFreePress
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@PatShalerOk, now I get your point. Yes, this would make a good editorial. Please send via info@westernfreepress.com

rofomoreno
rofomoreno

@PatShaler  As the outsider Democrat looking in and witnessing the obvious blockade by the Repub Center/Left of Center maneuvering with the media and the Democrat far Left in keeping control from away the determined will of the Right, I do not see the the Right, the Conservative, the TEA Party, or any other traditionalist principled groups as the aggressors. Quite the contrary, in the necessity of the moment as relates to the dangerous times we live in, I see the Right, every bit, as the persistent, resolute, persevering first responder who will walk through the fires of hell to rescue the reigns from the reckless compromisable Centrists. 

My point being, this has gone far beyond the threshold of a Kumbaya moment. If patience has a value, it is the more Conservative minded Americans who given it all. It is not the Right who need to open their arms to Centrists who term after term seem to seek greater individual opportunity by compromising their constituent's trust.

A continuation of compromising with the deceitful for the sake of getting along does nothing but to give greater advantage to a culture of acceptable deviancy.     

rofomoreno
rofomoreno

@PatShaler   With all due respect, I'm a bit confused as to which way your political calling leans. Regardless, I am confident that there is common ground on which to bridge a gap.


Assuming you are one in the same, in a Facebook entry a few days ago, you posted similar concerns but stated openly "I am a Rino, a McCainite and I vote Republican b/c I want my Country back." 


I voted for McCain but not with a lot of confidence in expecting a favorable Conservative outcome. But by my understanding of Conservative principles vs the Left end of the spectrum, Liberal-Progressivism, and the participants that wander in and out of Moderatism, I am confident in knowing that my sentiments do not sit well with "RINO's", which clearly would be worthy of Senator John McCain's disdain.


Secondly, in the same FB post and your concern of not having much of a choice when it comes to making a decision of who to vote for, you stated" ... or vote for the misogynist Establishment Republican or the Tea Party shut down the government, racist."

Is it your impression or perception that the Establishment Repubs are anti-women and/or those who embrace TEA Party principles are racist? Or did I read that wrong?  

Unless I am mistaken, the comments you've posted herein at Western Free Press would imply that you consider yourself Right leaning and include yourself as Conservative (I'm assuming) in posing the question" ...  What can we do to convince the "Establishment" GOP to play nice with us?"

Can you please clarify?

(BTW: For purposes of full disclosure "rofomoreno" (me), herein, and "Rudolph Ultreya" frequenting at "Republicans of the Great State of Arizona" Facebook and other places, are one in the same)

WesternFreePress
WesternFreePress moderator

@PatShalerOk. 


I don't have any cliff notes for the manual, but it's a quick read, The way it is set up, you don't have to read everything ll at once. Just use the table of contents to find what you need.

WesternFreePress
WesternFreePress moderator

@PatShalerWould you be willing to write an op-ed on that subject? I think you are on to something, and you have the passion on that subject . . . .

WesternFreePress
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@PatShaler@sspdavidmiller@dleeper47@rofomoreno@ggoosse

1. That is a really good question. I think it will be very difficult to simply convince them. If they shared the depth of commitment to first principles that we do, they would sound and act like Ted Cruz rather than Mitch McConnell and John McCain. They're moderates. That does not make them lefties, contrary to what a lot of people in our movement think, but they are pretty moderate. They have also chosen to side with the media and attack our movement. That says a lot about them. I believe the only way they will play ball is if they become convinced that their political survival depends on it. Ted Cruz and Mike Lee beat people in the primaries who weren't really all that bad, conservatism-wise (though Cruz and Lee are clearly way better). Right now, there are fewer of them than there are of the establishment types. But if we get a few more Cruz and Lee-style victories in the primaries, the remaining establishment types will sense which way the wind is blowing and may turn around. Unfortunately, I think this is more than a mild internecine squabble; I believe it is a fundamental battle for the "soul" of the Republican Party. 

As it happens, I believe that it is a battle that we are eventually going to win. The GOP will either become more conservative (because we will make it so) or it will collapse and be replaced. When the Whigs stopped standing for anything, and when they couldn't decide where they stood on the most important issue of the day, they collapsed and made way for the  Republican Party in 1854. Today, the GOP has to make the same choice.

2. I have a nearly 200 page answer to this question---a handbook I published last year. At the risk of shameless self promotion, here is the link :-) The ideas you have mentioned are great ones---this activism handbook has a ton more!

http://www.amazon.com/The-StreetSmarts-Manual-Activism-ebook/dp/B00AQ2S2ZC/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1373568715&sr=1-1

WesternFreePress
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@PatShaler@dleeper47@ggoosse@sspdavidmiller@rofomoreno 

I believe it is a sensible rule of thumb., Putting it into practice,though, can be difficult, as it is often hard to know who could actually win in a particular district, and who we're just dreaming could win. For example, Could Christine O'Donnell have won a general election in Delaware? Nope. Mike Castle was a total RINO, but he voted with us *some* of the time, and he could actually win in DE. And having one more person with an R after his name, weak though he may have been, was one person closer to Harry Reid NOT being Senate Majority Leader. 


If we are going put up conservatives to challenge moderate Republicans in borderline states and districts, it has to be with candidates that are really awesome----like Ronald Reagan types. People who are so charming and well-spoken, etc., that they can overcome the fact that their politics are the the right of the districts' or states' through sheer charisma. 


Unfortunately, such candidates are not always available, and in our quest for purity, we sometimes pick duds who don't have a prayer. I don't have a perfect solution for this, but we, as a movement, do have to think clearly and proceed carefully. We have given away several seats in the Senate to the Democrats this way.

dleeper47
dleeper47 moderator

@PatShaler 

That mantra has always made great sense to me ... it's deciding the "who can win" part that's tough! Who decides "who can win"? Reince Priebus?


The working theory in 2012 was that the more a GOP candidate moved toward the Democrat positions, i.e., toward the 'center', the more likely he/she was to pick up the independents and thereby win. I'm not sure I buy that. Do you? That model seemed to ignore the importance of *turnout*, and it was low turnout that really hurt us ... Romney did very well among the "independents"  


I subscribe to the view that an inspirational Reagan-like candidate will pick up the independents *and* boost GOP turnout. What do you think?

dleeper47
dleeper47 moderator

@ggoosse 

If all Conservatives adopt your viewpoint, we'll should be able to win with a majority big enough to overcome the margin of fraud. 

I just hope when the pundit polls show we're ahead, nobody gets complacent, as so many did in 2012.

WesternFreePress
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@sspdavidmillerIs that why Romney lost? Did too many conservatives stay home because they didn't think he was good enough?

WesternFreePress
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@rofomoreno@PatShalerOh, I did not see those comments. Yes, I too would like to hear a clarification on "or vote for the misogynist Establishment Republican or the Tea Party shut down the government, racist."

WesternFreePress
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@PatShalerAnd my cliff notes message to every activist is this: You have power. You can make a difference. 

Even through words alone. It is said that at one point, most of the adults in the Colonies had either read, or heard read aloud, Paine's "Common Sense." Words matter!  Make the argument. Add to the weight of an argument. Win the war of ideas!

dleeper47
dleeper47 moderator

@WesternFreePress @PatShaler @dleeper47 @ggoosse @sspdavidmiller @rofomoreno 

That makes sense. As Conservatives, we did have some losers, but of course the GOP helped them lose by offering no support or only tepid support. On the other hand, we had some surprise winners like Ted Cruz, no? There are a lot of "moderates" like our own Senator who surely wish he had lost. And if Cruz had lost, would we be talking about him the way we talk about Christine O'Donnell?


Did Ken Cuccinelli lose his race *despite* lots of GOP support? My understanding is that he got only a little support -- very little. If that's true, it's no wonder Conservatives are upset with the GOP.


As you say, it's a tough call -- and I hate they way the old bulls of the GOP take Conservative votes for granted. But I'll still vote for the RINO rather than the Democrat. Once that RINO is in office, though, look out ... there's a new louder version of Conservatives who have been activated by Barack Obama, and our numbers are growing, not shrinking ... 

sleepergirl
sleepergirl

@WesternFreePress @sspdavidmiller Intellectually I understand we should vote for the lesser of two evils.  Some days I tell myself "no way, no how" will I vote for a Big Gov GOP; some days I say "damn, I'll hold my nose just so a Progressive doesn't get the Oval Office.  It's a hell of a way to participate in a "representative" Republic.

rofomoreno
rofomoreno

@WesternFreePress@sspdavidmiller   In the Dem Party, it is no longer the blind leading the blind. It is now the blind (lowly or uniformed voter) being led by the devil (metaphorically or otherwise) after he overwhelmingly, convincingly and successfully portrayed and sold himself as their long awaited messiah (remember this? - "We are the ones... we have been waiting for"). 

That said, and putting very little faith (at this point) in the Repub Party, as a Conservative/TEA Party enthusiast/activist (and Democrat) I will not (and never have) be so blind as to stay home and willfully hand over what liberties I have left to the whims of a soul selling, soul buying messiah and his redistributive criteria of what a global or American compassionate culture should be. If it should come to pass, regardless of who the lesser of the Republican evils should be left standing, I will not give the regressive dictates of the Democrat Liberal-Progressive regime the satisfaction of saying that their message was so compelling that it caused the Repub voter base stay home and twiddle their thumbs. In essence it will effectively be saying "Conservative self righteous-purist prideful gave us the win".       


That said, I am ever genuinely hopeful that a Republican matching the calling cards of McCain, Romney, Christie, Huckabee, etc., etc., will be sent home in admirable conciliatory fashion after a resoundingly everlasting and historical Conservative beating.       

After that, a warm encouraging welcome will be in order in having them rejoin us in setting Lib-Progressives back by at least one unforgettable generation (if not longer). So help us God.

WesternFreePress
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@dleeper47@WesternFreePress@PatShaler@ggoosse@sspdavidmiller@rofomorenoI am not sure what Gohmert would say, but I suspect that Boehner would just be replaced by someone else from the crop of marginally conservative establishment types—most likely Cantor or McCarthy. Based on the information I have, that would actually be worse than Boehner.


Short of a collapse-and-replace scenario, I think the pathway for us is a rebuild-the-bridge-one-girder-at-a-time scenario. Each time we have an opportunity, we replace a more marginal conservative with a more solid conservative. If we do this intelligently and with a little patience, we won't even have to replace ever single one by hand. At some point, a tipping point is reached and the writing on the wall becomes clear. The party then changes its overall nature and moderates start falling off faster, by attrition.


Take a look at this link:


http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=75124207697efe9a19ed9a724&id=e5f67d65d0&e=0ab75b00fb


Imagine if every one of these guys won. What would the "establishment" do then? I think they would cease being the establishment, and the conservatives would take over and become the establishment.


If you think about it, that's what happened on the left. The hard, internationalist left has been slowly rebuilding the Democratic Party "bridge" from within, one girder at a time. Now, it's a hard-left party. Zell Millers and Scoop Jacksons are gone. Joe Lieberman's departure signaled the final note in the symphony of the old Democratic Party.


Some are arguing, rather convincingly, I think, that the same has already been underway on the right (irritating establishment types to the contrary notwithstanding). Check it out:


http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/take-heart-conservatives-take-heart?f=must_reads


Maybe it's not fast enough to prevent disaster in the country, and its certainly ot fast enough for my taste, but arguably, it IS happening.

dleeper47
dleeper47 moderator

@WesternFreePress @dleeper47 @PatShaler @ggoosse @sspdavidmiller @rofomoreno 

That's a great article ... and a good video at the bottom of the article ... I love Gohmert's attitude and his sense of humor.


I'd love to hear Louie's suggestion on tactics and strategy. For example, if we want serious change in the House, we probably need a new Speaker. How do we get that? 


If a strong charismatic leader announces he wants the Speakership, and Boehner won't budge, the only way I can think to do get it done is to prevail upon Conservatives in Boehner's district to vote en masse for the Democrat, give up that one seat, and force the majority to elect a new speaker who will face the same fate if he/she does not develop a Conservative backbone. What do you think? Too radical?  What might Louie say?

WesternFreePress
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@dleeper47@WesternFreePress@PatShaler@ggoosse@sspdavidmiller@rofomoreno  

A lot here.

First, I think that Cruz is an example of the kind of candidate we need to run. He's very charismatic and could probably win in less conservative districts on the strength of his personality and delivery.

Second, I think you are absolutely right---the old guard want us destroyed.


Third, I think you are right to vote for the RINO rather than  the Democrat. We are not benefited at all by having Dems win. I think the key is to win with what we have until we can win with something better. And we keep working to bring about something better.


Of course, this may all come to a head before such a methodical approach can play itself out. If the old guard pushes too hard, things may begin to happen fast. And I do not believe they realize just how precarious their position is. A tipping point is coming. And if the right person with big name recognition comes out and makes a big move (like forming a new "faction" of the GOP), the rapidity with which the establishment's house of cards comes tumbling down might astonish everyone. 


Gohmert isn't quite big enough, but this here sounds like a bit of a foreshadowing. 


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/19/Battle-Cry-Louie-Gohmert-calls-on-Tea-Party-to-fight-back-against-GOP-establishment


What do you think?

WesternFreePress
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@sleepergirl@sspdavidmillerOh, I get it, Never mind. I just meant the word "petulant"; not that it is a cuss, just strong language. 


Third party splitters are a perennial problem even when they're NOT funded by the Dems. Definitely a serious issue.

sleepergirl
sleepergirl

@WesternFreePress @sleepergirl @sspdavidmiller What language is that?


Seriously, what the Left is perfecting now is running a moderate/liberterian/independent candidate that will split the GOP vote and result in a Dem win.  Witness what just happened in electing a state senator in VA this week.

WesternFreePress
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@sleepergirl@WesternFreePress@sspdavidmiller It's painful, but that's how representative governance works. An expectation of perfection is unrealistic. We only get the choices we get, not the choices we wish we could get. Heck, it's that way in life, not just in politics.

Indeed, it's the left that is supposed to suffer from utopian thinking, and we conservatives who are supposed to understand that life involves tradeoffs and imperfect solutions. We are adults; we should not act like toddlers and pick up our marbles when we don't get exactly our way.

I find this as painful and agonizing as the next conservative. I didn't WANT McCain or Romney as president. Blech! But Obama has done damage almost beyond reckoning to this country, damage that McCain and Romney would not have done. (Or, at worst, they would have done far, far less of it.)

The fact that we have lame choices is an internal matter. Conservatives and libertarians should have been more involved in the GOP 40 years ago, working on getting better candidates at the local level, candidates who would then move up the ranks. We needed to close the primaries years ago, so indies and dems couldn't cross over and vote for RINOs. The fact that we end up with Doles and McCains as choices is a problem decades in the making.

What we need to do is vote for the better candidate, even if the choice isn't great, and then do the hard work required to improve our choices for next time. Every Republican and conservative who stayed home because McCain and Romney weren't ideal played a role in giving us Obama. Please excuse my language here, but their petulant desire for perfection helped Obama wreak untold damage on this nation.

dleeper47
dleeper47 moderator

@rofomoreno @WesternFreePress @sspdavidmiller 


Well said, Rofo! 
I used to be so angry at the GOP that I wanted to see Conservatives bolt the party and form a third party ... out of spite ... but no longer.
I'll do the best I can to help get Conservatives nominated, but, as I always have, I'll still vote for the GOP candidate over the Democrat.


When a RINO gets elected, we Conservatives can stay on his/her a$$ pushing them toward limited govt., free markets, and fiscal responsibility. There's a new breed of Conservative activist now that will stay engaged all the time -- not just at election time.